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	<title>Comments on: Christian Apologetics</title>
	<link>http://www.blog.beyondthefirmament.com/2007/10/12/christian-apologetics/</link>
	<description>Understanding Science and the Theology of Creation</description>
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		<title>By: Judd</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.beyondthefirmament.com/2007/10/12/christian-apologetics/#comment-69</link>
		<author>Judd</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Dear Gordon,

I believe the presuppositional approach can yield some useful insights, but there are problems with its anthropology.

For one thing, presuppositionalism is often accompanied by a biblically unwarranted hubris. Some arguers in this school actually say that unbelievers cannot comprehend ANYTHING rightly because of their fallen nature--neglecting overwhelming biblical evidence to the contrary, and also, more seriously, neglecting to realize that the fallen nature is a condition which applies to ALL humans, not only unbelievers.

I think that presuppositionalism must be tempered by a broad scholarly appropriation of all the many great Christian schools of thought, or it endangers the Christian virtue of humility.

The Holy Spirit teaches through scripture that the problem with men is not that they won't "accept a particular worldview". Rather, he teaches that they by nature reject their dire need for the cross. Believers, I think, should be seen not as people who "have the right worldview", but rather as people who are slowly and painfully recovering from their despising of the cross, and who wish to help others begin recovering as well.

God bless you for this very important work of yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Gordon,</p>
<p>I believe the presuppositional approach can yield some useful insights, but there are problems with its anthropology.</p>
<p>For one thing, presuppositionalism is often accompanied by a biblically unwarranted hubris. Some arguers in this school actually say that unbelievers cannot comprehend ANYTHING rightly because of their fallen nature&#8211;neglecting overwhelming biblical evidence to the contrary, and also, more seriously, neglecting to realize that the fallen nature is a condition which applies to ALL humans, not only unbelievers.</p>
<p>I think that presuppositionalism must be tempered by a broad scholarly appropriation of all the many great Christian schools of thought, or it endangers the Christian virtue of humility.</p>
<p>The Holy Spirit teaches through scripture that the problem with men is not that they won&#8217;t &#8220;accept a particular worldview&#8221;. Rather, he teaches that they by nature reject their dire need for the cross. Believers, I think, should be seen not as people who &#8220;have the right worldview&#8221;, but rather as people who are slowly and painfully recovering from their despising of the cross, and who wish to help others begin recovering as well.</p>
<p>God bless you for this very important work of yours.</p>
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		<title>By: GJG</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.beyondthefirmament.com/2007/10/12/christian-apologetics/#comment-71</link>
		<author>GJG</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blog.beyondthefirmament.com/2007/10/12/christian-apologetics/#comment-71</guid>
					<description>Thanks Judd, very well said.  And welcome to the BTF blog!

Like all of the -isms I hold to (Calvinism, Covenantalism, Post-Millennialism, Evolutionism, etc...) I should also qualify my acceptance of Presuppositionalism - since I rarely take any of these things in thier entirety.  

I like to see them as frameworks to help make sense of complicated ideas, not as absolute and unbending ideologies as is the tendency of systematic theolgians.

-GJG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Judd, very well said.  And welcome to the BTF blog!</p>
<p>Like all of the -isms I hold to (Calvinism, Covenantalism, Post-Millennialism, Evolutionism, etc&#8230;) I should also qualify my acceptance of Presuppositionalism - since I rarely take any of these things in thier entirety.  </p>
<p>I like to see them as frameworks to help make sense of complicated ideas, not as absolute and unbending ideologies as is the tendency of systematic theolgians.</p>
<p>-GJG</p>
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