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	<title>Comments on: Climbing the Charts</title>
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	<description>Understanding Science and the Theology of Creation</description>
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		<title>By: Cliff Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.beyondthefirmament.com/2007/09/13/climbing-the-charts/#comment-39</link>
		<author>Cliff Martin</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I've started to read the book. Thank you! I will be recommending it my friends. Your strength, I believe, is analogy and metaphor. Your analogies open delightful windows upon the truth. 

I was interested to see where you started. On the blog site I recently started  in which I hope to discuss science and theology, I started out with posts on General Revelation, Special Revelation, and Progressive Revelation. Epistemology is the necessary starting point. Thank you for giving us yours.

As a &lt;i&gt;former&lt;/i&gt; Calvinist, I may take exception to some of your comments about Providence, Divine Intervention, etc. You and I may share some friendly iron sharpening. But for the most part, I love what you are doing in this book!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve started to read the book. Thank you! I will be recommending it my friends. Your strength, I believe, is analogy and metaphor. Your analogies open delightful windows upon the truth. </p>
<p>I was interested to see where you started. On the blog site I recently started  in which I hope to discuss science and theology, I started out with posts on General Revelation, Special Revelation, and Progressive Revelation. Epistemology is the necessary starting point. Thank you for giving us yours.</p>
<p>As a <i>former</i> Calvinist, I may take exception to some of your comments about Providence, Divine Intervention, etc. You and I may share some friendly iron sharpening. But for the most part, I love what you are doing in this book!</p>
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		<title>By: GJG</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.beyondthefirmament.com/2007/09/13/climbing-the-charts/#comment-40</link>
		<author>GJG</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks Cliff, it's great to get feedback.  I do love to draw analogies and to put complicated ideas in simple terms.  That was one of the primary reasons why I decided to write the book - since I'm not really going to add anything scientific or theological to the debate that hasn't already been said a hundred times over.  

Believe it or not, I'm actually working on a children's book that does this very thing for kids.  More on that later!

I wrestled with whether or not to bring my Reformed views into the discussion, since you don't have to be a Calvinist to accept my arguments on science and faith.  But I actually came to the conclusion while writing this book that a Reformed view of providence helps to give the natural sciences a context from which to operate.  Things like chance, chaos, and complexity are just as much a part of the mystery of providence as are Newton's laws of motion.  Again, not a central issue - and hopefully it won't destract non-Calvinists from my arguments.  

Of course, this is just the way I currently see it and there could be other ways of looking at it that I have yet to consider.  I've changed my mind on things too many times to rest comfortably with any ideas!  Semper Reformada!  

I look forward to hearing more from your perspective.  I've really enjoyed what I've seen from your blog so far and I'm honored that you will recommend BTF to your audience.  I also look forward to jumping into the discussions over on "Outside the Box" as things come up.

-GJG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Cliff, it&#8217;s great to get feedback.  I do love to draw analogies and to put complicated ideas in simple terms.  That was one of the primary reasons why I decided to write the book - since I&#8217;m not really going to add anything scientific or theological to the debate that hasn&#8217;t already been said a hundred times over.  </p>
<p>Believe it or not, I&#8217;m actually working on a children&#8217;s book that does this very thing for kids.  More on that later!</p>
<p>I wrestled with whether or not to bring my Reformed views into the discussion, since you don&#8217;t have to be a Calvinist to accept my arguments on science and faith.  But I actually came to the conclusion while writing this book that a Reformed view of providence helps to give the natural sciences a context from which to operate.  Things like chance, chaos, and complexity are just as much a part of the mystery of providence as are Newton&#8217;s laws of motion.  Again, not a central issue - and hopefully it won&#8217;t destract non-Calvinists from my arguments.  </p>
<p>Of course, this is just the way I currently see it and there could be other ways of looking at it that I have yet to consider.  I&#8217;ve changed my mind on things too many times to rest comfortably with any ideas!  Semper Reformada!  </p>
<p>I look forward to hearing more from your perspective.  I&#8217;ve really enjoyed what I&#8217;ve seen from your blog so far and I&#8217;m honored that you will recommend BTF to your audience.  I also look forward to jumping into the discussions over on &#8220;Outside the Box&#8221; as things come up.</p>
<p>-GJG</p>
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		<title>By: Vance</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.beyondthefirmament.com/2007/09/13/climbing-the-charts/#comment-42</link>
		<author>Vance</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Got the book today, and it looks good!  Since I just got a few books at the same time, I can't jump right into it, but skimming through gives me a good feeling!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got the book today, and it looks good!  Since I just got a few books at the same time, I can&#8217;t jump right into it, but skimming through gives me a good feeling!</p>
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		<title>By: GJG</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.beyondthefirmament.com/2007/09/13/climbing-the-charts/#comment-43</link>
		<author>GJG</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blog.beyondthefirmament.com/2007/09/13/climbing-the-charts/#comment-43</guid>
					<description>Thanks Vance.  I'm looking forward to your feedback!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Vance.  I&#8217;m looking forward to your feedback!</p>
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